Thomas Beller

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Fall 1998

Time: 6:20

Christina Ricci On Anorexia, Incest, and Her ’67 Ford

I was really anorexic at the time. I looked like a walking skeleton. ... I looked kind of like E.T.

Listen to Christina Ricci on Anorexia, Incest, and Her ’67 Ford

Interview Notes

- The Scene: Restaurant and apartment in New York City
- The Source: Cassette tape recorder
- The Article: Thomas Beller’s profile of Christina Ricci, “Hello Nasty”, appeared in SPIN Magazine

Transcript

David Gerlach: In this edition we wanted take you behind the scenes. Give you a glimpse of just how we’re building this archive of American interviews. Now on the one hand we do hear a lot of brand new outtakes that come from the journalists and authors contributing to this archive. Conversations connected to articles and books that are coming out. But we also get interviews from the past. Maybe they were recorded on cassette tape. They’ve been gathering dust in a drawer or shoebox. But these conversations still say something. They just had never been heard until now.

(Sounds of pool balls crashing)

Christina Ricci: So I’ve never been better than anyone at pool before.

Thomas Beller: Hey. Don’t get ahead of yourself.

Christina Ricci: I’m not. I’ll probably fu&% up.

David Gerlach: That’s writer and author Thomas Beller. He’s interviewing actress Christina Ricci there. The interview captured on a tape recorder. Ricci barely 18 when they met up back in the late 1990s. But as you will hear she was already game for a good quote. 

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And a blunt one like this.

Christina Ricci: It is just the most ridiculous thing I could imagine. These people who believe in god actually think god cares if we say fu%$ ? You know what I mean? It’s sort of silly.

David Gerlach: Ricci has managed to stay in the public eye since this interview. That’s no easy feat. In total over the past two decades she’s been in nearly 50 films. She’s appeared on Broadway. Anyway listening in on this one night, it’s a moment in America. An interview. A striving, seemingly fearless yet vulnerable young actress. So we begin with Christina Ricci on her past struggles with anorexia. The scene: a crowded restaurant. This is Blank on Blank.

Christina Ricci: You should probably know I was really anorexic at the time. I looked like a walking skeleton in a way. I was scary to all the other girls. I was just sort of mad…

Thomas Beller: I didn’t know you had gone through that period of time. What was that all about? You certainly don’t look anorexic now

Christina Ricci: (Laughs ) I don’t know. It was a phase.

Thomas Beller: Well everything is a phase.

Christina Ricci: Everything is a phase. I always felt that I would be complete, no one could ever fu&% with me or make me feel bad if I was thin, because they would have nothing to make fun of me about.

Thomas Beller: How thin… How low did your weight get?

Christina Ricci: I was like 75 pounds and the same height I am now. I was really skinny. It was kind of scary. And I have kind of a big head, so I looked kind of like E.T. I was just like these two big eyes and then like nothing here. Hollow cheeks. Like my neck… I never knew you could lose weight in your neck. My neck was like the width of my arm right there. It was really weird.

Song: Freddie Jackson “Easin’ On Down”

David Gerlach: The conversation later jumps to some controversy Ricci had stirred up around this time. In another interview, she had joked about incest being cool. Years later she would become a spokesperson for a national anti-sexual assault organization. But at this time, back then, she was still realizing the power of sarcasm when you’re in the public eye..

Thomas Beller: So did you ever see this interview you gave in the FACE. Did you see that?

Christina Ricci: That’s the one I got in trouble for.

Thomas Beller: Yeah, why? What did you say that got you in trouble?

Christina Ricci: Because the incest thing.

Thomas Beller: Yeah, you said you were really into incest.

Christina Ricci: Yeah, I got in trouble for that. Even though I was being sarcastic.

Thomas Beller: In trouble for… what do you mean?

Christina Ricci: I got yelled at.

Thomas Beller: By?

Christina Ricci: My agents.

Thomas Beller: What did they say?

Christina Ricci: That was the whole thing. They said to me: ‘Imagine some little girl who is getting by her father or her brother and sees this and thinks I shouldn’t really be upset by this?’ Which I think is wrong. I don’t really believe in incest, it’s just more fun and easier to say this.

Thomas Beller: I feel bad I got you after already after the weird spin control ideas coming like down on you. You’re not going to be… personal

Christina Ricci: No, believe me. I’m still like… I’m not like at that point where I’m not going to talk about anything risqué. It’s just like certain things I shouldn’t talk about anymore. I can move onto other things that are equally… that can get me into equal amounts of trouble.

Thomas Beller: Like what?

Christina Ricci: I don’t know, I already talked about my pus&% a couple times in front of you.

Thomas Beller: Just once. Or 12

Christina Ricci: (Laughs)

Song: Beatconductor “Guarambembere”

David Gerlach: So the last outtake we have from this interview occurs when Beller and Ricci are on the street. They have left the restaurant when he asks the actress about her car. It’s parked outside.

Christina Ricci: It’s a ‘67 Ford Falcon Futura station wagon. It’s turquoise and sparkly.

Thomas Beller: So let me get this straight though: You bought this huge car that you couldn’t drive that was totally awesome that had like a 12-word title to it.

Christina Ricci: Yeah. It’s awesome. I bought it before I had my license. I got my license. And I drove around. But it was really old and we got all this work done on it. But, um… the brakes. My legs, first of all, my legs are too short. And secondly I’m not strong enough. Because you have to hold it, like hold the brake down when you stop.

Thomas Beller: It’s not automatic.

Christina Ricci: And you have to press on them a half-mile before you have to stop.

Thomas Beller: It’s a huge behemoth car.

Christina Ricci: Oh, yeah. It’s really heavy.

Thomas Beller: So the first time you were driving it, you are trying to brake and freaking out and clutching the steering wheel.

Christina Ricci: I was really nervous. But it’s fun.

David Gerlach: That was actress Christina Ricci on pool, anorexia, a controversy over incest, and her 1967 Ford Falcon Futura. And this is Blank on Blank. I do wish to thank Thomas Beller for adding this interview to the archive. The interview was actually the foundation for a cover story he wrote for Spin magazine. Beller has also authored several books and he currently teaches creative writing at Tulane University. You can check out all of his work at Thomas Beller dot com. Now for more candid interviews you can hear nowhere else, head over to blank on blank dot org. I’m David Gerlach. Keep listening.

Music Credit: Beatconductor “Guarambembere” | Freddie Jackson “Easin’ On Down”
Photo Credit: Entertainment Press / Shutterstock.com

 

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